Dave Hollis says whenever a change is introduced into your life, it shakes your identity. In this episode, Dave and Tina backtrack elements of Dave’s life that led him to unearth nuggets of wisdom about navigating change, hard times, narrating your own story, and a methodology of setting goals and getting after them. 
What makes Dave special is he traces lessons of life back to his own chapters of life as President of Theatrical Distribution at the Walt Disney Company and how leaving that role and entering the unpredictable world of the entrepreneur shook his identity. He talks about stepping into your unique gifts and finding humanity in your struggle. About not worrying about the “what if’s” and “how long’s” and instead of appreciating the gifts of the current moment. 

Two Notes to Younger Self:

  1. The things you think will make you happy, will not.
  2. Find happiness, hope, and gratitude in your current situation because it’s all you have.
Three Questions to Ask:
  1. Where did the story come from?
  2. Does the storyteller have credibility?
  3. Do they have credibility on this topic?

Gift Yourself:

Recognize the humanity in your struggle. Once you do, you’ll give yourself two things…
  1. You’ll find other people going through similar experiences as you and will make you feel less alone. 
  2. You’ll open the possibilities of accepting help. Suffering thrives in darkness, so by opening to others, others in similar situations might have a hack or tool to help you. 

Setting your vision and goals:

Set a clear vision of yourself 5 to 10 years from now. Then take a look at your 5 areas of health (mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, and relational) and see how you can advance each of them with small goals for the next 3 to 6 months in whatever environment you find yourself in. 


  • “When you accomplish a goal, you reframe what you had believed you had the capacity for.” —Dave Hollis
  • “Struggle is universal. The headwinds, grief, and hard times are a reflection of your humanity. It’s not a reflection of you being weak or broken.” — Dave Hollis
  • “Friction is breaking down the muscle so you can build it back up.” —Dave Hollis
  • “Leave the dock of something certain, for growth sits outside the choppy waters of the harbor.” — Dave Hollis


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